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Disclaimer

Discussion in 'Please Tell Us What You Think' started by gaurav_bindlish, Apr 20, 2004.

  1. gaurav_bindlish New Member

    I have noticed that many of us have put a deisclaimer in the footer of the post about the rights on the post and what can be done about the post and the information provided. I think it would be a wise idea if the same is updated in the policies of forum and the disclaimer shows at the bottom of each page. That way we can remove the disclaimer from the signatures in our posts and this will save lot of disk space for Brad.

    What do you think fellows?
  2. bradmcgehee New Member

    An interesting idea. Any other feedback?

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  3. Luis Martin Moderator

    No problem, really first time I see was from Satya, after that I copy from Gaurav.
    I did that because I don't know what USA regulation are.


    Luis Martin
    Moderator
    SQL-Server-Performance.com

    The views expressed here are those of the author and no one else. There are no warranties as to the reliability or accuracy of anything presented here.
  4. satya Moderator

    I would second Gaurav's inspiration and this clears the forum policy to be moderately good.

    How about the small links information on the bottom of each page about [Copyright] [Disclaimer], I think these would do a bit of the task.

    Satya SKJ
    Moderator
    http://www.SQL-Server-Performance.Com/forum
    This posting is provided “AS IS” with no rights for the sake of knowledge sharing.
  5. FrankKalis Moderator

    Just a note from me on this.<br />Here in Germany when I offer such services like chat, fora, mailing list, I, as the webmaster, can be held responsible, for any post with offending or irritating content I have positively knowledge of. The webmaster is expected to check frequently for those posts and remove them. But, as far as I have understood our regulations noone can hold me responsible for posting not correct advises. Or correct advises which are executed incorrectly. As long as they are not apparently malicious like "Put your dog in the microwave oven, so it will get dry more quickly after taking a walk in the rain".<br /><br />Brad, you as the webmaster should check this. It might be sufficient to add another chapter to the disclaimer you already have, like satya suggested. It's a small task that can help avoid trouble<br /><br />[<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-1.gif' alt=':)' />]<br /><br /><br /><br />Frank<br /<a target="_blank" href=http://www.insidesql.de>http://www.insidesql.de</a><br /<a target="_blank" href=http://www.familienzirkus.de>http://www.familienzirkus.de</a>
  6. satya Moderator

    <i>As long as they are not apparently malicious like "Put your dog in the microwave oven, so it will get dry more quickly after taking a walk in the rain".</i> [<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-2.gif' alt=':D' />][<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-2.gif' alt=':D' />][<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-2.gif' alt=':D' />] ... I can't stop laughing after your comments ... Frank... keep it up.<br /><br />[<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-3.gif' alt=':eek:' />)]<br /><br /><br /><hr noshade size="1"><b>Satya SKJ</b><br />Moderator<br /<a target="_blank" href=http://www.SQL-Server-Performance.Com/forum>http://www.SQL-Server-Performance.Com/forum</a><br /><center><font color="teal"><font size="1">This posting is provided “AS IS” with no rights for the sake of knowledge sharing.</font id="size1"></font id="teal"></center>
  7. FrankKalis Moderator

    Hey satya, we can laugh on this. <br />In America you can sue the producer for multi million dollars when they didn't make you aware of such a risk in their manual.<br /><br />[<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-2.gif' alt=':D' />]<br /><br /><br /><br />Frank<br /<a target="_blank" href=http://www.insidesql.de>http://www.insidesql.de</a><br /<a target="_blank" href=http://www.familienzirkus.de>http://www.familienzirkus.de</a>
  8. gaurav_bindlish New Member

    And you can sue McDonalds for the reason that you got fat because you were having double cheese burger with large fries and large coke everyday.

    Gaurav
    Moderator
    Man thrives, oddly enough, only in the presence of a challenging environment- L. Ron Hubbard

    The views expressed here are those of the author and no one else. There are no warranties as to the reliability or accuracy of anything presented here.
  9. bradmcgehee New Member

    Any feedback on the disclaimer I added?

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    Brad M. McGehee, MVP
    Webmaster
    SQL-Server-Performance.Com
  10. Luis Martin Moderator

    No in my oppinion.


    Luis Martin
    Moderator
    SQL-Server-Performance.com

    The views expressed here are those of the author and no one else. There are no warranties as to the reliability or accuracy of anything presented here.
  11. satya Moderator

    I feel the links [Disclaimer] & [copyright] displayed are sufficient with required additions.

    Or specify (in small print) to read the Disclaimer & Copyright on every page.

    Edit:
    AFter a while I found this on every page
    [© 2002 - 2004 SQL-Server-Performance.Com. All postings are provided “AS IS” with no warranties for accuracy implied]

    I feel this is more than enough.
    Satya SKJ
    Moderator
    http://www.SQL-Server-Performance.Com/forum
    This posting is provided “AS IS” with no rights for the sake of knowledge sharing.
  12. FrankKalis Moderator

  13. gaurav_bindlish New Member

    Is there some policies section for the forum where these policies can be articulated more strongly.

    Gaurav
    Moderator
    Man thrives, oddly enough, only in the presence of a challenging environment- L. Ron Hubbard

    The views expressed here are those of the author and no one else. There are no warranties as to the reliability or accuracy of anything presented here.
  14. ChrisFretwell New Member

    Almost makes you not want to help people (for free) if you have to go to such great lengths to ensure they wont blame you.
    But a blanket agreement or something when a member signs up would be good. And if its changed, existing members must press a button or something saying they agree before they can post again.

    Almost makes me wonder if I should the next person who stops me on the street for directions to sign a disclaimer before I give them. Or the next person I hold a door for or.....
  15. gaurav_bindlish New Member

    I beleive that's the point we are tring to make. All the advice here is for free and there is no gaurantee for accuracy.

    Gaurav
    Moderator
    Man thrives, oddly enough, only in the presence of a challenging environment- L. Ron Hubbard

    The views expressed here are those of the author and no one else. There are no warranties as to the reliability or accuracy of anything presented here.
  16. satya Moderator

    Gaurav

    I may not agree fully on your point about accuracy of the post (reply) from the peers in this forum. Every individual is experienced in the SQL server arena and from time to time they are extending help to solve the issues.

    Moreover without knowing or self-experience no one can suggest the solution. I feel the solutions availble from MS or other sources are reliable and accurate at that point of solution.

    So what you say.... rather we cannot hold the content as a copyright.



    Satya SKJ
    Moderator
    http://www.SQL-Server-Performance.Com/forum
    This posting is provided “AS IS” with no rights for the sake of knowledge sharing.
  17. Luis Martin Moderator

    Guys try to make a short sentence. To cover all possible aspect, then should be more longer than post itsel.


    Luis Martin
    Moderator
    SQL-Server-Performance.com

    The views expressed here are those of the author and no one else. There are no warranties as to the reliability or accuracy of anything presented here.
  18. gaurav_bindlish New Member

    I think I may have sounded rude here. I never meant to be rude here or am not proud of anything. I learn everyday from this forum. Also it's nothing about copyright.

    The idea is any individual or his company should not be sued tomorrow by someone because he applied some suggestion which was suggested by that person.

    If this was too much to ask for, I apologise.

    Gaurav
    Moderator
    Man thrives, oddly enough, only in the presence of a challenging environment- L. Ron Hubbard

    The views expressed here are those of the author and no one else. There are no warranties as to the reliability or accuracy of anything presented here.
  19. FrankKalis Moderator

    Unfortunately it is not that easy, to just put up a website and publish something and don't care about the rest. I for myself had to learn that you need to be aware of many legal requirements or you're in danger of being admonished with a administrative fine raging fom 5,000 € up to 50,000€. One can imagine that this is the death of each private homepage.

    The individual poster here cannot be held responsible for offering their opinions as long as they are consistent with moral and legal standards. I think even such an advise like
    "To shrink your t-log you can do a DROP DATABASE."
    is 'ok' (within this context here), as it is within the responsibility of each person to check and test before applying an advise.

    IANAL but in this case it certainly pays off doing some research how that requirements look like in Amerika.



    Frank
    http://www.insidesql.de
    http://www.familienzirkus.de
  20. satya Moderator

    Gaurav<br /><br />Your impression was not at all rude, in fact this clears the doubts with regard to warranties and accuracy on the posts by the members.... cheer up [<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-2.gif' alt=':D' />]<br /><br />I believe its far away to think about any individual taking such a drastic action, everybody know forums & newsgroups extends free help and with no warranty on the advice.<br /><br /><br /><br /><hr noshade size="1"><b>Satya SKJ</b><br />Moderator<br /<a target="_blank" href=http://www.SQL-Server-Performance.Com/forum>http://www.SQL-Server-Performance.Com/forum</a><br /><center><font color="teal"><font size="1">This posting is provided “AS IS” with no rights for the sake of knowledge sharing.</font id="size1"></font id="teal"></center>
  21. bradmcgehee New Member

    I don't loose any sleep over any of this, even though I am the one legally liable, should their be an issue. Life is too short to worry about small stuff. Thank you for all of your input.

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    Brad M. McGehee, MVP
    Webmaster
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