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Suggestion: poster categories

Discussion in 'Please Tell Us What You Think' started by merrillaldrich, Jul 24, 2006.

  1. merrillaldrich New Member

    Just a thought: it might be useful if the labels the system applies to people were something that really shows it's just based on post count, not expertise. For example "A Few Posts," "A Lot o' Posts," "A WHOLE lot o' posts" (humor could be removed, but hopefully that gives the idea).<br /><br />I keep seeing people assume that "Advanced Member" is some kind of credential or certification <img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-1.gif' alt=':)' />.
  2. FrankKalis Moderator

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><br />I keep seeing people assume that "Advanced Member" is some kind of credential or certification <img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-1.gif' alt=':)' />.<br /><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"><br />Well, I guess people tend to believe that members with high post counts are always correct (by definition [<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-5.gif' alt=';)' />]), instead of evaluating answers on a case by case basis. Nobody's perfect all the time.<br /><br />What would you suggest as categories?<br /><br />--<br />Frank Kalis<br />Microsoft SQL Server MVP<br />Webmaster:<a target="_blank" href=http://www.insidesql.de>http://www.insidesql.de</a><br />Heute schon gebloggt?<a target="_blank" href=http://www.insidesql.de/blogs>http://www.insidesql.de/blogs</a>
  3. merrillaldrich New Member

    I'm afraid I don't have any brilliant ideas -- but to me something like "active member" gives a better idea than "senior member." This is not meant as a criticism, but some folks ask a lot of questions, then they show up on here as "senior member" (this could be me I am describing <img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-1.gif' alt=':)' /> while there are people with more expertise and fewer posts. It's not possible to track the expertise, as you say, only the post count, so it seems useful to have the labels not conflate the two things.
  4. FrankKalis Moderator

    This is a "big problem". How should one judge on the expertise of another member? The easiest way is to have a look at the post count. Though that doesn't mean anything, it's a good impression on the activity. But then? In the forum package on my own site there is a feature called "Karma indicator" which can be incremented (or decremented) by 1 by every member one time per thread. So, if someone (not necessarily the questioner) likes an answer, he can increment that indicator. Or decrement, if he thinks the answer isn't what he was looking for. While this might go into the right direction, I think such a feature can also be the source of trouble among the members. What I like is the feature on the MSDN fora. The original questioner can mark a post as being helpful. In the profile of each member there you can find how many other users he helped. Also the helpful answer in a thread is optically marked helpful, IIRC. Anyway, changing the member ranks is quite simple and can be done via the CP of the forum here by the forum admin. Anything else would require another modification, which is likely to be available, but has to be implemented.

    To cut a long story short, I have no idea how to handle this issue objectively so that everybody's glad. [?]

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    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
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  5. bradmcgehee New Member

    This would be a simple change to make. Anyone else have comments?

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  6. satya Moderator

    I appreciate your idea and welcome all your feedback, it is good to experiment the methods to make forum unique on web. As long as it doesn't hurt the forum's performance.<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by merrillaldrich</i><br /><br />I'm afraid I don't have any brilliant ideas -- but to me something like "active member" gives a better idea than "senior member." This is not meant as a criticism, but some folks ask a lot of questions, then they show up on here as "senior member" (this could be me I am describing <img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-1.gif' alt=':)' /> while there are people with more expertise and fewer posts. It's not possible to track the expertise, as you say, only the post count, so it seems useful to have the labels not conflate the two things.<br /><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"><br /><br />Brad,<br />If this is not taking too much of your time then why not test run for a limited time and then ask for a feedback.
  7. ghemant Moderator

    Hi,
    as Frank said i think MARKING A THREAD (USEFULL or NOT ) is a good idea but i suspect somehow hurts ..

    Hemantgiri S. Goswami
    ghemant@gmail.com
    "Humans don't have Caliber to PASS TIME , Time it self Pass or Fail Humans" - by Hemantgiri S. Goswami
  8. FrankKalis Moderator

  9. joechang New Member

    i think it should be possible to rank threads in a positive manner,
    ie, negative rankings are not allowed

    1. broadly applicable
    2. moderate
    3. specialized
    4. unclear

    i would also suggest the moderators be allowed to change the subject/title to more properly reflect the topic
    too many are titled: help, desparate, etc
  10. bradmcgehee New Member

    Here is what I can change, along with how the current ranksing work. Please offer up your suggestions.


    "Moderator"
    --This could be changed to Master DBA, Coach, Mentor, etc.


    "Starting Member", from 0 - 2 posts

    "New Member", from 3-24 posts

    "Junior Member", from 25-49 posts

    "Full Member", from 50-199 posts

    "Senior Member", from 200-299 posts

    "Advanced Member", 300+ posts


    Please offer your suggestions for naming and for post counts.






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    Brad M. McGehee, MVP
    Webmaster
    SQL-Server-Performance.Com
  11. merrillaldrich New Member

    OK, here's a guess, though it's a little redundant <img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-1.gif' alt=':)' /><br /><br />"0-2 posts", from 0 - 2 posts<br /><br />"3-24 posts", from 3-24 posts<br /><br />"25-49 posts", from 25-49 posts<br /><br />"50-199 posts", from 50-199 posts<br /><br />"200-299 posts", from 200-299 posts<br /><br />"300+ posts", 300+ posts<br /><br />Or, this:<br /><br />"New Forum User", from 0-24 posts<br /><br />"Occasional Forum User", from 25-49 posts<br /><br />"Regular Forum User", from 50-199 posts<br /><br />"Frequent Forum User", from 200-299 posts<br /><br />"Very Frequent Forum User", 300+ posts
  12. satya Moderator

    An addition to Merrill's

    "Very Frequent Forum User", 300- 500 posts
    "Standard Forum User", 500+ posts

    Satya SKJ
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Contributing Editor & Forums Moderator
    http://www.SQL-Server-Performance.Com
    This posting is provided �AS IS� with no rights for the sake of knowledge sharing.
  13. FrankKalis Moderator

    I would agree with Merrill second suggestion!
    Though I also think, a "moderator" is a moderator (with some responsibilities) and I wouldn't change this label.

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    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Webmaster:http://www.insidesql.de
    Heute schon gebloggt?http://www.insidesql.de/blogs
  14. bradmcgehee New Member

    I'm in NYC city this week, and when I find time, I will make some of these suggestions changes.

    Here's where I am staying for those Google Earth fans: 40°42'28.19"N 74° 0'25.21"W

    I'm here auditing a LearningTree International course on SQL Server 2005 so that I can learn how to teach it.

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    Brad M. McGehee, MVP
    Webmaster
    SQL-Server-Performance.Com
  15. merrillaldrich New Member

    Cool. You guys are great - thanks for being so flexible <img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-1.gif' alt=':)' />
  16. satya Moderator

    I second Frank's opinion in not changing the Moderator wording.

    Satya SKJ
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Contributing Editor & Forums Moderator
    http://www.SQL-Server-Performance.Com
    This posting is provided �AS IS� with no rights for the sake of knowledge sharing.
  17. Roji. P. Thomas New Member

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by merrillaldrich</i><br />[<br />"New Forum User", from 0-24 posts<br /><br />"Occasional Forum User", from 25-49 posts<br /><br />"Regular Forum User", from 50-199 posts<br /><br />"Frequent Forum User", from 200-299 posts<br /><br />"Very Frequent Forum User", 300+ posts<br /><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"><br /><br />This can be contradictory when a poster with 5 posts per day is an "Occasional Forum User" and another with 0.01 posts per day is a "Frequent Forum User" <img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-1.gif' alt=':)' /><br /><br />Roji. P. Thomas<br /<a target="_blank" href=http://toponewithties.blogspot.com>http://toponewithties.blogspot.com</a><br />
  18. Adriaan New Member

    Why not just let the number of posts speak for itself?

    I participate in another forum where they show the join date, plus the current post number for the member at the time of posting. If we could have that, plus the current total number of posts for the member like we have now, then everyone can review the perceived relative validity of a specific post anytime.
  19. FrankKalis Moderator

    Hm, I'm not sure if Snitz will eat this. Probably it needs an empty string or a blank, but in general I like that idea. Kind of we're all equal. [<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-1.gif' alt=':)' />]<br /><br />--<br />Frank Kalis<br />Microsoft SQL Server MVP<br />Webmaster:<a target="_blank" href=http://www.insidesql.de>http://www.insidesql.de</a><br />Heute schon gebloggt?<a target="_blank" href=http://www.insidesql.de/blogs>http://www.insidesql.de/blogs</a>
  20. Luis Martin Moderator

    How about average posts, starting after 3 month from the 1rst post?


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    SQL-Server-Performance.com

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  21. FrankKalis Moderator

  22. bradmcgehee New Member

    I could set up the form so that all users have the name name, such as "member" or somthing similar, and the counts would speak for themselves. Any opinions?

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    Brad M. McGehee, MVP
    Webmaster
    SQL-Server-Performance.Com
  23. satya Moderator

    I believe the same as in SQLTeam and DBforums, but why not test run what Merril has suggested.

    Satya SKJ
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Contributing Editor & Forums Moderator
    http://www.SQL-Server-Performance.Com
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  24. FrankKalis Moderator

  25. bradmcgehee New Member

    I turned the naming off, except for moderator. What do you think?

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    Brad M. McGehee, MVP
    Webmaster
    SQL-Server-Performance.Com
  26. Luis Martin Moderator

    Agree.


    Luis Martin
    Moderator
    SQL-Server-Performance.com

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  27. Anonymous New Member

    Hii,
    Ranking the threads w.r.t others is a nobel idea, but the ranking shld be in such away that, that perticular thread shld be suggested by moderator to others who are seeking help for that kind of issues

    next2none is what others feel about the maverick
  28. merrillaldrich New Member

    I like it without the names. Simple <img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-1.gif' alt=':)' />
  29. ghemant Moderator

    Its good without name.

    Hemantgiri S. Goswami
    ghemant@gmail.com
    "Humans don't have Caliber to PASS TIME , Time it self Pass or Fail Humans" - by Hemantgiri S. Goswami
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    http://hemantgirisgoswami.blogspot.com
  30. Roji. P. Thomas New Member

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Its good without name.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"><br /><br />Hmmm. Its just yesterday I was promoted from New Member to Junior Member. And before the celebration settle down here, you guys removed the name. How bad!!!<br /><br /><br />[<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-3.gif' alt=':eek:' />)]<br /><br />Roji. P. Thomas<br /<a target="_blank" href=http://toponewithties.blogspot.com>http://toponewithties.blogspot.com</a><br />
  31. FrankKalis Moderator

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by bradmcgehee</i><br /><br />I turned the naming off, except for moderator. What do you think?<br /><br />-----------------------------<br />Brad M. McGehee, MVP<br />Webmaster<br />SQL-Server-Performance.Com<br /><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"><br />I don't see the "moderator". Anyway I like it this way. <br /><br />...maybe I should add to my signature <br />"The 5 silver stars in the left column indicate a moderator." [<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-3.gif' alt=':eek:' />)]<br /><br />--<br />Frank Kalis<br />Microsoft SQL Server MVP<br />Webmaster:<a target="_blank" href=http://www.insidesql.de>http://www.insidesql.de</a><br />Heute schon gebloggt?<a target="_blank" href=http://www.insidesql.de/blogs>http://www.insidesql.de/blogs</a>
  32. satya Moderator

    Nice catch Frank [<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-5.gif' alt=';)' />]<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><br />Its just yesterday I was promoted from New Member to Junior Member. And before the celebration settle down here, you guys removed the name. How bad!!!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"><br />Still your contributions are valued more than that.... you can celebrate now [<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-1.gif' alt=':)' />]<br /><br /><br /><hr noshade size="1"><b>Satya SKJ</b><br />Microsoft SQL Server MVP<br />Contributing Editor & Forums Moderator<br /<a target="_blank" href=http://www.SQL-Server-Performance.Com>http://www.SQL-Server-Performance.Com</a><br /><center><font color="teal"><font size="1">This posting is provided �AS IS� with no rights for the sake of <i>knowledge sharing.</i></font id="size1"></font id="teal"></center>
  33. Roji. P. Thomas New Member

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by satya</i><br />Still your contributions are valued more than that.... you can celebrate now [<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-1.gif' alt=':)' />]<br /><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"><br /><br />Okay, today I am targetting the 50 posts mark.<br /><br />Roji. P. Thomas<br /<a target="_blank" href=http://toponewithties.blogspot.com>http://toponewithties.blogspot.com</a><br />
  34. FrankKalis Moderator

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><br />Okay, today I am targetting the 50 posts mark.<br /><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"><br />Satya, you better watch Roji! Looks like a tough contender for you. [<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-2.gif' alt=':D' />]<br /><br />--<br />Frank Kalis<br />Microsoft SQL Server MVP<br />Webmaster:<a target="_blank" href=http://www.insidesql.de>http://www.insidesql.de</a><br />Heute schon gebloggt?<a target="_blank" href=http://www.insidesql.de/blogs>http://www.insidesql.de/blogs</a>
  35. Roji. P. Thomas New Member

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by FrankKalis</i><br /><br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><br />Okay, today I am targetting the 50 posts mark.<br /><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"><br />Satya, you better watch Roji! Looks like a tough contender for you. [<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-2.gif' alt=':D' />]<br /><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"><br /><br />Thats nearly impossible. Even after all these years he still maintains an average of around ten posts per day. <br /><br />Amazing!<br /><br />Roji. P. Thomas<br /<a target="_blank" href=http://toponewithties.blogspot.com>http://toponewithties.blogspot.com</a><br />
  36. satya Moderator

    I like challenges and thanks for your note guys.

    Satya SKJ
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Contributing Editor & Forums Moderator
    http://www.SQL-Server-Performance.Com
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  37. Luis Martin Moderator

    Now without names, next step without number of post.<br />How about that[<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-3.gif' alt=':eek:' />)]?<br /><br /><br />Luis Martin<br />Moderator<br />SQL-Server-Performance.com<br /><br /><font size="1">All in Love is Fair <br />Stevie Wonder<br /></font id="size1"><br /><br /><font size="1">All postings are provided “AS IS” with no warranties for accuracy.</font id="size1"><br /><br /><br /><br />
  38. FrankKalis Moderator

    So, why bother posting anyway? [<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-5.gif' alt=';)' />]<br /><br />--<br />Frank Kalis<br />Microsoft SQL Server MVP<br />Webmaster:<a target="_blank" href=http://www.insidesql.de>http://www.insidesql.de</a><br />Heute schon gebloggt?<a target="_blank" href=http://www.insidesql.de/blogs>http://www.insidesql.de/blogs</a>
  39. Luis Martin Moderator

    Because you have to catch me[<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-4.gif' alt=':p' />].<br /><br /><br />Luis Martin<br />Moderator<br />SQL-Server-Performance.com<br /><br /><font size="1">All in Love is Fair <br />Stevie Wonder<br /></font id="size1"><br /><br /><font size="1">All postings are provided “AS IS” with no warranties for accuracy.</font id="size1"><br /><br /><br /><br />
  40. bradmcgehee New Member

    If you change your mind, I can change it back. But is seems that most people who have an opinion like the new method.

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    Brad M. McGehee, MVP
    Webmaster
    SQL-Server-Performance.Com
  41. FrankKalis Moderator

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><br />But is seems that most people who have an opinion like the new method.<br /><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"><br />[<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-2.gif' alt=':D' />]<br /><br />--<br />Frank Kalis<br />Microsoft SQL Server MVP<br />Webmaster:<a target="_blank" href=http://www.insidesql.de>http://www.insidesql.de</a>
  42. satya Moderator

    I liked the old one, any chance invoking the old method[<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-5.gif' alt=';)' />].<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by bradmcgehee</i><br /><br />If you change your mind, I can change it back. But is seems that most people who have an opinion like the new method.<br /><br />-----------------------------<br />Brad M. McGehee, MVP<br />Webmaster<br />SQL-Server-Performance.Com<br /><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
  43. FrankKalis Moderator

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by satya</i><br /><br />I liked the old one, any chance invoking the old method[<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-5.gif' alt=';)' />].<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by bradmcgehee</i><br /><br />If you change your mind, I can change it back. But is seems that most people who have an opinion like the new method.<br /><br />-----------------------------<br />Brad M. McGehee, MVP<br />Webmaster<br />SQL-Server-Performance.Com<br /><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"><br /><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"><br />Care to explain yur reasons? [<img src='/community/emoticons/emotion-1.gif' alt=':)' />]<br /><br />--<br />Frank Kalis<br />Moderator<br />Microsoft SQL Server MVP<br />Webmaster:<a target="_blank" href=http://www.insidesql.de>http://www.insidesql.de</a>

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